Comments on: Trademark protection gone mad: Linden Lab takes aim at educators /2009/10/02/trademark-protection-gone-mad-linden-lab-takes-aim-at-educators/ Coverage of news, issues and events occurring in virtual worlds or those who create those worlds Fri, 31 Dec 2010 23:47:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: jokaydia.com - Virtual Worlds, Education, Community, SL Rentals /2009/10/02/trademark-protection-gone-mad-linden-lab-takes-aim-at-educators/comment-page-1/#comment-206567 jokaydia.com - Virtual Worlds, Education, Community, SL Rentals Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:56:38 +0000 /?p=2323#comment-206567 [...] been such an exciting day for jokaydia! Rather than focussing on the negative aspects of recent events, I’ll just say that I’m really proud of the jokaydia Community of [...] [...] been such an exciting day for jokaydia! Rather than focussing on the negative aspects of recent events, I’ll just say that I’m really proud of the jokaydia Community of [...]

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By: Trademarking and educators: Linden Lab responds : The Metaverse Journal – Australia’s Virtual World News Service /2009/10/02/trademark-protection-gone-mad-linden-lab-takes-aim-at-educators/comment-page-1/#comment-206553 Trademarking and educators: Linden Lab responds : The Metaverse Journal – Australia’s Virtual World News Service Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:21:23 +0000 /?p=2323#comment-206553 [...] As reported yesterday, there’s been some activity around the use of the ‘SL’ trademark, with Australian educator Jokay Wollongong receiving a takedown notice. I shot through a few questions to Linden Lab on the issue, and Pathfinder Linder has formally responded. So as promised, here’s Linden Lab’s full right of reply: [...] [...] As reported yesterday, there’s been some activity around the use of the ‘SL’ trademark, with Australian educator Jokay Wollongong receiving a takedown notice. I shot through a few questions to Linden Lab on the issue, and Pathfinder Linder has formally responded. So as promised, here’s Linden Lab’s full right of reply: [...]

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By: Gwyneth Llewelyn /2009/10/02/trademark-protection-gone-mad-linden-lab-takes-aim-at-educators/comment-page-1/#comment-206720 Gwyneth Llewelyn Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:01:59 +0000 /?p=2323#comment-206720 ... I wonder if they're also taking down the international conference on research in SL at <a href="http://slactions.org/" rel="nofollow">http://slactions.org/</a> ... and who knows how many more educational/research portals.<br><br>The problem, Ann, is that there is a slight problem when going too literal about the use of "SL". Imagine I buy the domain name called <a href="http://slice.com" rel="nofollow">slice.com</a> and talk in it about how researchers are using SL to, say, investigate the properties of solid H2O. Is that a trademark violation? Well, "slice" is a common dictionary word. And so are "slug" or "slip" or "slander" or "sleeve" and so on. Not to mention words in other languages, of course. So does LL has the right to enforce the use of the two letters "SL" in any existing word?<br><br>Then we have the typical puns with unexisting words but which clearly intend to convey the notion of "Second Life something", like, say, "<a href="http://secondslog.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">slog - A Second Life resident blog</a>" (yes, the site has a disclaimer on the trademarks). And I'm sure we can imagine quite a lot of cases where the letters "sl" happen somewhere in a fake name which is intended to represent a pun on words.<br><br>Notice that this is quite different than creating something called "SL Business" or so (<a href="http://secondlife.com/corporate/brand/trademark/sl_insl.php" rel="nofollow">a clear violation</a>). On the other hand, <a href="http://sl.education.wikispaces.com/" rel="nofollow">http://sl.education.wikispaces.com/</a> would be perfectly reasonable (see <a href="http://secondlife.com/corporate/brand/trademark/sl_insl.php" rel="nofollow">examples</a>) or <a href="http://sleducationalresources.wikispaces.com/" rel="nofollow">http://sleducationalresources.wikispaces.com/</a><br><br>I'd say, the difference is really small, but attacking the fastest-growing non-entertainment use of Second Life® is really a Bad Idea... … I wonder if they're also taking down the international conference on research in SL at http://slactions.org/ … and who knows how many more educational/research portals.

The problem, Ann, is that there is a slight problem when going too literal about the use of “SL”. Imagine I buy the domain name called slice.com and talk in it about how researchers are using SL to, say, investigate the properties of solid H2O. Is that a trademark violation? Well, “slice” is a common dictionary word. And so are “slug” or “slip” or “slander” or “sleeve” and so on. Not to mention words in other languages, of course. So does LL has the right to enforce the use of the two letters “SL” in any existing word?

Then we have the typical puns with unexisting words but which clearly intend to convey the notion of “Second Life something”, like, say, “slog – A Second Life resident blog” (yes, the site has a disclaimer on the trademarks). And I'm sure we can imagine quite a lot of cases where the letters “sl” happen somewhere in a fake name which is intended to represent a pun on words.

Notice that this is quite different than creating something called “SL Business” or so (a clear violation). On the other hand, http://sl.education.wikispaces.com/ would be perfectly reasonable (see examples) or http://sleducationalresources.wikispaces.com/

I'd say, the difference is really small, but attacking the fastest-growing non-entertainment use of Second Life® is really a Bad Idea…

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By: annotoole /2009/10/02/trademark-protection-gone-mad-linden-lab-takes-aim-at-educators/comment-page-1/#comment-206719 annotoole Fri, 02 Oct 2009 05:35:16 +0000 /?p=2323#comment-206719 Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Or buy 200 regions.<br><br>All joking aside trademarks are trademarks. Don't use other people's trademarks period. LL needs to step up enforcement in world and run the "theft is kewl crowd" out of SL. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Or buy 200 regions.

All joking aside trademarks are trademarks. Don't use other people's trademarks period. LL needs to step up enforcement in world and run the “theft is kewl crowd” out of SL.

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By: Gwyneth Llewelyn /2009/10/02/trademark-protection-gone-mad-linden-lab-takes-aim-at-educators/comment-page-1/#comment-206549 Gwyneth Llewelyn Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:01:59 +0000 /?p=2323#comment-206549 ... I wonder if they're also taking down the international conference on research in SL at <a href="http://slactions.org/" rel="nofollow">http://slactions.org/</a> ... and who knows how many more educational/research portals.<br><br>The problem, Ann, is that there is a slight problem when going too literal about the use of "SL". Imagine I buy the domain name called <a href="http://slice.com" rel="nofollow">slice.com</a> and talk in it about how researchers are using SL to, say, investigate the properties of solid H2O. Is that a trademark violation? Well, "slice" is a common dictionary word. And so are "slug" or "slip" or "slander" or "sleeve" and so on. Not to mention words in other languages, of course. So does LL has the right to enforce the use of the two letters "SL" in any existing word?<br><br>Then we have the typical puns with unexisting words but which clearly intend to convey the notion of "Second Life something", like, say, "<a href="http://secondslog.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">slog - A Second Life resident blog</a>" (yes, the site has a disclaimer on the trademarks). And I'm sure we can imagine quite a lot of cases where the letters "sl" happen somewhere in a fake name which is intended to represent a pun on words.<br><br>Notice that this is quite different than creating something called "SL Business" or so (<a href="http://secondlife.com/corporate/brand/trademark/sl_insl.php" rel="nofollow">a clear violation</a>). On the other hand, <a href="http://sl.education.wikispaces.com/" rel="nofollow">http://sl.education.wikispaces.com/</a> would be perfectly reasonable (see <a href="http://secondlife.com/corporate/brand/trademark/sl_insl.php" rel="nofollow">examples</a>) or <a href="http://sleducationalresources.wikispaces.com/" rel="nofollow">http://sleducationalresources.wikispaces.com/</a><br><br>I'd say, the difference is really small, but attacking the fastest-growing non-entertainment use of Second Life® is really a Bad Idea... … I wonder if they're also taking down the international conference on research in SL at http://slactions.org/ … and who knows how many more educational/research portals.

The problem, Ann, is that there is a slight problem when going too literal about the use of “SL”. Imagine I buy the domain name called slice.com and talk in it about how researchers are using SL to, say, investigate the properties of solid H2O. Is that a trademark violation? Well, “slice” is a common dictionary word. And so are “slug” or “slip” or “slander” or “sleeve” and so on. Not to mention words in other languages, of course. So does LL has the right to enforce the use of the two letters “SL” in any existing word?

Then we have the typical puns with unexisting words but which clearly intend to convey the notion of “Second Life something”, like, say, “slog – A Second Life resident blog” (yes, the site has a disclaimer on the trademarks). And I'm sure we can imagine quite a lot of cases where the letters “sl” happen somewhere in a fake name which is intended to represent a pun on words.

Notice that this is quite different than creating something called “SL Business” or so (a clear violation). On the other hand, http://sl.education.wikispaces.com/ would be perfectly reasonable (see examples) or http://sleducationalresources.wikispaces.com/

I'd say, the difference is really small, but attacking the fastest-growing non-entertainment use of Second Life® is really a Bad Idea…

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By: annotoole /2009/10/02/trademark-protection-gone-mad-linden-lab-takes-aim-at-educators/comment-page-1/#comment-206545 annotoole Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:35:16 +0000 /?p=2323#comment-206545 Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Or buy 200 regions.<br><br>All joking aside trademarks are trademarks. Don't use other people's trademarks period. LL needs to step up enforcement in world and run the "theft is kewl crowd" out of SL. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Or buy 200 regions.

All joking aside trademarks are trademarks. Don't use other people's trademarks period. LL needs to step up enforcement in world and run the “theft is kewl crowd” out of SL.

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