Comments on: Protest in Second Life: the current Gaza conflict /2008/12/30/protest-in-second-life-the-current-gaza-conflict/ Coverage of news, issues and events occurring in virtual worlds or those who create those worlds Fri, 31 Dec 2010 23:47:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: someone that knows /2008/12/30/protest-in-second-life-the-current-gaza-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-206716 someone that knows Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:54:02 +0000 /?p=1837#comment-206716 the israelis and pro-israelis protestm also, why dont u show it ??<br>(in S.L at the "sl israel sim" and "tel-aviv sim" the israelis and pro-israelis protestm also, why dont u show it ??
(in S.L at the “sl israel sim” and “tel-aviv sim”

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By: someone that knows /2008/12/30/protest-in-second-life-the-current-gaza-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-199414 someone that knows Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:54:02 +0000 /?p=1837#comment-199414 the israelis and pro-israelis protestm also, why dont u show it ??<br>(in S.L at the "sl israel sim" and "tel-aviv sim" the israelis and pro-israelis protestm also, why dont u show it ??
(in S.L at the “sl israel sim” and “tel-aviv sim”

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By: Charging Elephants .com » links for 2009-01-05 /2008/12/30/protest-in-second-life-the-current-gaza-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-198202 Charging Elephants .com » links for 2009-01-05 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:34:36 +0000 /?p=1837#comment-198202 [...] Protest in Second Life: the current Gaza conflict (tags: middleeast politics secondlife technology) [...] [...] Protest in Second Life: the current Gaza conflict (tags: middleeast politics secondlife technology) [...]

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By: erionline (José Erigleidson) /2008/12/30/protest-in-second-life-the-current-gaza-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-196685 erionline (José Erigleidson) Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:17:32 +0000 /?p=1837#comment-196685 Protest in Second Life: avatars against the current conflit in the Gaza trip http://tinyurl.com/998xw6 Protest in Second Life: avatars against the current conflit in the Gaza trip http://tinyurl.com/998xw6

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By: links for 2009-01-05 « Conservative First /2008/12/30/protest-in-second-life-the-current-gaza-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-191993 links for 2009-01-05 « Conservative First Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:02:45 +0000 /?p=1837#comment-191993 [...] Protest in Second Life: the current Gaza conflict (tags: middleeast politics secondlife technology) [...] [...] Protest in Second Life: the current Gaza conflict (tags: middleeast politics secondlife technology) [...]

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By: Prokofy /2008/12/30/protest-in-second-life-the-current-gaza-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-189995 Prokofy Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:39:33 +0000 /?p=1837#comment-189995 It's one-sided, as I and others have endeavoured to explain on Eureka's blog.<br><br>o It is on the Arab-government funded sim Virtual Hal run by <a href="http://islamonline.net" rel="nofollow">islamonline.net</a><br>o It is staged in front of a provocatively malicious build called "The Palestinian Holocaust Museum" meant to mock and denigrate the victims of the Jewish Holocaust and make a false moral equivalence<br>o It is staged with pictures only of one side of the conflict<br>o It is staged with Palestinian flags<br>o It is a protest against Israel's attack on Gaza, without any recognition or admission that Hamas is a terrorist group, has committed numerous terrorist actions, and was breaking the ceasefire by incessantly firing missiles into Gaza<br><br>This is not some innocent peace demonstration mourning victims and saying "Stop the War". The people involved have an agenda, and that comes out in all their surly and defensive remarks when confronted about their bias.<br><br>Sure, Second Life offers biased and one-sided groups with government funding and specific agendas to amplify their voices, even feigning a kind of "people's protest" if they get the sympathy of gushing leftist bloggers. That's fine. You get to do what you want on your land in SL, and unless you outright break the TOS, you will not be evicted.<br><br>Someone really should put the Linden goofy hippie ethos to the test, however, filing an abuse report on the "Palestinian Holocaust Museum" as an incitement of hate against the Jewish people. Because that's what it is. It doesn't get to cower behind its need to express its grief for its own people by deliberately and maliciously denigrating another people's suffering -- and in fact on Eureka's blog, the protester defiantly mentions that he deliberately provokes with the use of that "Holocaust Museum" so there's no question about it.<br><br>What SL also affords is the opportunity for people to object. To say, no, I won't go along with the politically-correct one-sided bullshit, and mount counter posts, blogs, demonstrations, whatever.<br><br>What's interesting is that there is another sim, called the Israel sim, which takes another approach, less polemical, and seeks to serve as an information provider rather than holding provocative and malicious hate rallies doing the moral equivalent, say, of calling Hamas "Nazis" or something. <br><br>And the Israel sim is griefed unbelievably by anti-semites and opportunistic copy-cat griefers enjoying people's suffering. <br><br>You don't see any protests against Hamas' terrorism on the Virtual Haj sim, now, do you.<br><br>No, it's not about sorrow. And that's why I don't cry on politically-correct and politically-manipulated cue, with portrayal of only one set of victims without any notion of their leaders' complicity in their deaths. And certainly Hamas militants were dry-eyed when they put even their own families at risk in residential buildings and hospitals and mosques with their stockpiling of weapons. It's one-sided, as I and others have endeavoured to explain on Eureka's blog.

o It is on the Arab-government funded sim Virtual Hal run by islamonline.net
o It is staged in front of a provocatively malicious build called “The Palestinian Holocaust Museum” meant to mock and denigrate the victims of the Jewish Holocaust and make a false moral equivalence
o It is staged with pictures only of one side of the conflict
o It is staged with Palestinian flags
o It is a protest against Israel's attack on Gaza, without any recognition or admission that Hamas is a terrorist group, has committed numerous terrorist actions, and was breaking the ceasefire by incessantly firing missiles into Gaza

This is not some innocent peace demonstration mourning victims and saying “Stop the War”. The people involved have an agenda, and that comes out in all their surly and defensive remarks when confronted about their bias.

Sure, Second Life offers biased and one-sided groups with government funding and specific agendas to amplify their voices, even feigning a kind of “people's protest” if they get the sympathy of gushing leftist bloggers. That's fine. You get to do what you want on your land in SL, and unless you outright break the TOS, you will not be evicted.

Someone really should put the Linden goofy hippie ethos to the test, however, filing an abuse report on the “Palestinian Holocaust Museum” as an incitement of hate against the Jewish people. Because that's what it is. It doesn't get to cower behind its need to express its grief for its own people by deliberately and maliciously denigrating another people's suffering — and in fact on Eureka's blog, the protester defiantly mentions that he deliberately provokes with the use of that “Holocaust Museum” so there's no question about it.

What SL also affords is the opportunity for people to object. To say, no, I won't go along with the politically-correct one-sided bullshit, and mount counter posts, blogs, demonstrations, whatever.

What's interesting is that there is another sim, called the Israel sim, which takes another approach, less polemical, and seeks to serve as an information provider rather than holding provocative and malicious hate rallies doing the moral equivalent, say, of calling Hamas “Nazis” or something.

And the Israel sim is griefed unbelievably by anti-semites and opportunistic copy-cat griefers enjoying people's suffering.

You don't see any protests against Hamas' terrorism on the Virtual Haj sim, now, do you.

No, it's not about sorrow. And that's why I don't cry on politically-correct and politically-manipulated cue, with portrayal of only one set of victims without any notion of their leaders' complicity in their deaths. And certainly Hamas militants were dry-eyed when they put even their own families at risk in residential buildings and hospitals and mosques with their stockpiling of weapons.

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By: Michael /2008/12/30/protest-in-second-life-the-current-gaza-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-188355 Michael Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:01:23 +0000 /?p=1837#comment-188355 If there were people launching rockets into civilian towns and causing death and injury in any other place in the world its people would expect their Government and military to take swift and decisive action to stop it. Using deadly force would be acceptable if that what it would take for the attacks to cease. <br>However in saying that, if you cram 1.7 million people into a small space, have them live in poverty, with 50% unemployment and no prospects of any real improvement in the foreseeable future you are going to get elements within that society become militant. No brainer there !!! <br>Hmas now has the choice of leading their people to a negotiated peace process of destruction…. If there were people launching rockets into civilian towns and causing death and injury in any other place in the world its people would expect their Government and military to take swift and decisive action to stop it. Using deadly force would be acceptable if that what it would take for the attacks to cease.
However in saying that, if you cram 1.7 million people into a small space, have them live in poverty, with 50% unemployment and no prospects of any real improvement in the foreseeable future you are going to get elements within that society become militant. No brainer there !!!
Hmas now has the choice of leading their people to a negotiated peace process of destruction….

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By: rhdaily (Րաֆֆի ) /2008/12/30/protest-in-second-life-the-current-gaza-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-195879 rhdaily (Րաֆֆի ) Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:56:30 +0000 /?p=1837#comment-195879 Protests over Israel-Gaza w/in SL: http://tinyurl.com/998xw6 Protests over Israel-Gaza w/in SL: http://tinyurl.com/998xw6

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By: Lowell Cremorne /2008/12/30/protest-in-second-life-the-current-gaza-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-187724 Lowell Cremorne Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:37:47 +0000 /?p=1837#comment-187724 I can see your point Crap. If the deaths of children were the focus, then if Israeli kids have died from Hamas' actions, that would have indeed fitted the context of the protest. I can see your point Crap. If the deaths of children were the focus, then if Israeli kids have died from Hamas' actions, that would have indeed fitted the context of the protest.

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By: Prokofy /2008/12/30/protest-in-second-life-the-current-gaza-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-187723 Prokofy Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:27:09 +0000 /?p=1837#comment-187723 Photoshopped. Photoshopped.

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By: Crap Mariner /2008/12/30/protest-in-second-life-the-current-gaza-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-187722 Crap Mariner Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:24:09 +0000 /?p=1837#comment-187722 Minor problem with "As Eureka summarises in her post, that’s exactly the perspective encouraged at the protest."<br><br>Where's the snapshots of the Israeli casualties or damage caused by Hamas to Israeli buildings and institutions?<br><br>Her response rings hollow. Minor problem with “As Eureka summarises in her post, that’s exactly the perspective encouraged at the protest.”

Where's the snapshots of the Israeli casualties or damage caused by Hamas to Israeli buildings and institutions?

Her response rings hollow.

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